A Thought About Marriage
Here’s a shocker for you. If you’ve read my various rants, you probably have me pegged as a standard issue liberal cum angry atheist with an odd (and not particularly funny, I suppose) sense of humor. But would you have guessed that I’m opposed to gay marriage? It’s true, and that’s in spite of the fact that I happen to be friendly with a couple of men who are married to each other.
OK, it’s not because I don’t think same-sex couples deserve the same things that straight couples do. It’s because I’m opposed to marriage itself, for anybody.
Maybe a bit more clarification is needed here. I’m not opposed to two people choosing to devote their lives to each other and create a family. I’m not opposed to them gathering their friends and family together to celebrate that commitment. I think it’s a lovely idea. I just don’t like the idea of governmental or religious organizations “pronouncing” marriages, as I don’t think it’s any of their business, much less something they should have any control over.
True, when you get married you expect the government to recognize the relationship and the rights and responsibilities that go with it. The way I see it, it’s simply a matter of telling the government that you’re married. The newlyweds go to a notary public, sign a declaration of marriage, get it stamped and sent to the government. In other words, they themselves have married, and that right isn’t granted by the government; it’s a right they already had without the government. The government’s only role here is to put it on record so that there won’t be any question of inheritance, next of kin, etc.
So, now New Jersey has joined Vermont and Connecticut in “allowing” same-sex couples to have “civil unions.” Yippee for them. I live in the People’s Republic of Massachusetts, where we recognize that separate but equal ain’t equal.
As I understand it, the people who are opposed to same-sex marriages (and who claim it has nothing to do with hatred of gays) feel that marriage is a sacrament. They don’t always come out and say that, but I haven’t heard a single opinion on that side that hasn’t come down to a religious basis one way or another. Any other claims don’t make a lot of sense, because it’s not as if marriage is an institution that has remained unchanged for millennia. It was about property for most of the last few thousand years (including counting the wife as the husband’s property, given to him by her father), along with giving men a degree of assurance that the children they were raising were really their own. And until fairly recently in most societies, you didn’t get to pick the person you married. In some societies, it’s still that way. With that in mind, and if you don’t oppose gay marriage because you oppose gays, marriage is for a man and a woman because that’s what the religious organizations want, and when you seriously discuss this with someone who holds this position, all the points outside of religious dogma just don’t stand up. But religious dogma is religious dogma. There’s no point in arguing with it. I’m certainly not in a position to tell a Catholic that I know what their god wants better than the Pope does.
I’m thinking maybe we can all compromise. What if every state turned every “marriage” into a “civil union”? What I mean by that is that if the role of the government is simply to recognize the legality of a relationship between two people, whatever their gender, then what those three states call “civil unions” are really what the rest of the states currently call “marriage,” and ought to call “civil unions.”
And what happens to “marriage?” We can leave that to the religious organizations. If you want your relationship recognized by the government, go to city hall and get yourself a civil union. If you want that relationship recognized by the church, go to the church and get a priest to bless your civil union and pronounce it a marriage. If the church doesn’t want to bless your union, they don’t have to. We have religious liberty in this country, and religious groups are free to view things however they like. Jehovah’s Witnesses, as I understand it, don’t vote, because they don’t recognize the government of the United States. They only recognize the Kingdom of Jehovah. That’s their right.
So if your church won’t bless your marriage because you’re the same gender, because one of you has been divorced, because you’re not both members of the church, or even because the voice of god told the priest that this marriage was not to be, then that’s the church’s decision. Your options are to go to a different church, to work to change your church’s mind, or just to live in a civil union. You have the same rights as any couple as far as the government is concerned, but being recognized by the church requires you to meet the church’s criteria. The government doesn’t have the right to discriminate in that way.
Seems pretty simple to me. If we’re going to separate church and state, how can the church and the state both perform the same role when it comes to relationships and families? Get the government’s blessing (or recognition, anyway) from the government, and the church’s blessing from the church. They’re two different things.
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Blue Gal (27 comments) on 20 Dec 2006 at 3:45 am #
Lots of folks say civil unions for everybody. Certainly if the government looked after its own interests in terms of settled property arrangements and stable families, a civil union license would be hard to get. The wills, living wills, etc. would have to be arranged pre-nuptual by law. People would require a waiting period of say, three months to a year. Far fewer marriages would take place.
qwerty (63 comments) on 20 Dec 2006 at 3:57 am #
But that’s where my suggestion differs. If the government no longer had the power to control when a couple got married, then the union would be a simple matter of announcing it yourself and sending a document to the government, to let them know about it.
The only control the government could have in these matters is in checking to see if either of the people forming the union are already listed as married or aren’t in a position (due to age or ability) to be married.
Mike (5 comments) on 21 Dec 2006 at 1:46 am #
The problem with marriage are serveral hundred fold, IMHO, but all stem from the problem that, in a 1st world of infinite choice and variety, in which you can order a soy, decaf, cappuccino with carob sprinkles and equal, Marriage remains a “one size fits all” mish mash of unusefulness.
Even if we remove gay marriage from the debate, no one can possibly tell me that a Muslim marriage operates the same way as an orthodox Catholic marriage, which is different again from a cross cultural marriage betwen a secular Jew and a Budist Indian.
Yet they all sign the same shite contract. Why is that?
Marriage contracts offer no way to legitimise the uniqueness of specific marriages, and fail to include the most important element of any relationship: the practical rules for how the relationship will operate.
I won’t bore people with my multi-variant rant on this, but will leave with one,. as I see it, massive problem: when you get married, you are granting the other person power of attorney over your life And yet what that means, life support on or off, is not spelt out in the marriage contract. That is, IMHO, Crazy with a capital C.
And that is just one of a brazillian issues I see with marriage.
qwerty (63 comments) on 21 Dec 2006 at 3:47 am #
when you get married, you are granting the other person power of attorney over your life And yet what that means, life support on or off, is not spelt out in the marriage contract. That is, IMHO, Crazy with a capital C.
At least it’s a C and not a K.
The way I see it, the legalities like power of attorney and inheritance are the reason marriage ought to be universal for any marriage-like relationship. If you’re worried about whether the person given the option of pulling your plug wouldn’t make the choice you’d want, why would you want to marry them in the first place?
It seems to me that if you marry them, it’s because you want them to be registered as your next of kin. If you don’t want that, you don’t marry them, right?
But what do I know? I’m single as single can be.
Jill (1 comments) on 02 Jan 2007 at 3:33 am #
I think it’s brilliant, Bob. Hard to believe that’s not the way it currently is.